My father was lost in 64-0771 out of Cam Rahn 9/3/66. me 500s. There were pictures in the Tulsa World of the damage one of the ejection seats did to a womans newly-remodeled bathroom. Muhammad Mahmood Alam was a Pakistani Air Force jet fighter pilot in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. Final loss: F-4D 66-8747 (432d TRW) on 29 June 1973. Hi, Joe. Pilot Clyde Romero, 19, rests between flights at Khe Sanh in February 1971. I wanted to wipe the blood away but my hands were tied behind my back. They were in absolute frenzy. Very sadly, according to the DOD, 1,616 of our brothers are still missing in S.E. Thank you, Joe. Never regretted. North Vietnam, pre-1975: Killing of Two American Pilots Shot Down Over North Vietnam. Were there any female prisoners of war in Vietnam? Your comments and wisdom are much appreciated. Dickens rescued) Final loss: 70-0945 (354th TFW) shot down in Cambodia on 25 May 1973 (Capt Jeremiah Costello KIA) First loss: B-26B 44-35530 (Detachment 2A, 1st ACG) shot down in IV CTZ on the night of 4-5 November 1962, killing the 3 crew It was then that I could see a shapeless, black mass on the ground. I was a classmate with him in 64-C but the other flight. He didnt understand that we were mixed in a huge gaggle competing for time on target, lugging 10 X 500# bombs, 400 miles from base, with marginal weather, fuel hungry, not in sight with each other? I was asked the same questions over and over in an attempt to trip me up. I imagined the instrument of death: a bullet, a knife, a shovel, hammer, pick, axe At that moment, I felt a long, cool piece of steel slide between my throat and my helmet strap. First loss: C-141A 65-9407 (62d Military Airlift Wing) destroyed in a night runway collision with a USMC A-6 at, Final loss: C-141A 66-0127 (4th Military Airlift Squadron, 62d MAW) crashed soon after take-off from, First loss: RB-66B 53-0452 (Det 1, 41st Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron, 6250th Combat Support Group) which crashed 2223 October 1965 west of. French-Indo China had been an imperialist hot bed for years, not to mention part of the communist domino effect after WW 2 that everyone was paranoid about. A few of the men wore shoddy uniforms and were armed with old-looking, bolt-action rifles. Spent the day with Tom and Scottys brother Mark. Only loss: 51-15565 (432d Tactical Reconnaissance Wing) which crashed in Thailand 28 December 1966, both crewmen survived, Only loss: 63-13102 (5th SOS, 14th SOW) shot down 14 August 1969 near Bien Hoa, killing 1/Lt Roger Brown, Final loss: 600282 (38th ARRS) crashed Cam Ranh Bay 7 August 1969, crew rescued, Last losses: four CH-53s (68-10925, 10926, 10927, 701627, all from, C-1A 146016 (Composite Squadron Five VC-5), operational loss (non-combat) 8 August 1967, 3 passengers and 2 crew rescued, Final loss: C-1A 146054 (Carrier Air Wing 11, USS. SSGT Bobby Sacina, JoeThank you fot sharing your experience..We have had a few talks over beers in the past but you never told this storyYou are an American hero!! After that, I was blindfolded and transported two miles by motorcycle sidecar to another village and locked in a small building made of large stones. Hes taking us direct to Bravo and right over Yen Bai! Without hesitation Scotty rolled smoothly to the left into a near 90 degree bank and applied right (top) rudder and held it for a few seconds while I looked for the SAM that was certainly coming for us. Amazing story Mr.Crecca, I for one, am glad you are still here among us mere mortals, thank you for sharing your daunting experience, you sure went through hell for 6 years and yet had the courage to ask Nixon for another F-4 Yes, it is tainted with much uncertainty to which you allude. A photograph of Lockhart shows him being paraded through the streets of Hanoi. You certainly are my Hero! Have not seen him since 1962. The Thud flights were all calling Outbound for WX but our FLs OER was going to be written by the guy on MiG CAP so in we went and we took a SAM from dead six with no RHAW gear. Pilots would be hollering for this and for thatand there was NOTHING I could do. 64 to 69. The result of the egotistical attitude by the DO and the lack of courage and sound judgement by our flight leader cost Scotty Wilson his life, put me in communist prisons for over six years, resulted in my fathers untimely death at the age of 58 and a host of other horrors back home while I was away. Like the Flat-Earthers who still dont believe we landed on the Moon. They were all well received. The first thing I looked at was the horizon and I could almost hear the words of The Vanquished as if they were spoken to me. A lifelong non-smoker who was on a never-ending mission to convince people not to smoke, my father did eventually tell me of a scared Marine, who, early during the battle for Iwo Jima, asked my father to sit with him in a shallow bomb crater and smoke a cigarette. Final loss: C-130E 72-1297 (314th TAW) destroyed by rocket fire at Tan Son Nhut AB on 28 April 1975. Fogleman became the only Super Sabre pilot ever rescued by riding out on a Cobra helicopter. After I was stabilized, the boomer cleared me into the contact position. While the Vietnamese and Chinese have a long history of ethnic combat, the Chinese were happy to limit both Russian and American military influence in SE Asia, by replacing every bullet fired by North Vietnam. I was the mouse. Admiral William F. Bringle (seated) how a MiG-17 jet fighter was shot down over North Vietnam. https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/06165124/F-4C-64-0755-480TFS-Da-Nang1000.jpg, https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/06142440/Air-Facts-Logo340.jpg, COPYRIGHT 2011-2023, SPORTSMAN'S MARKET, INC. All Rights Reserved. The Republic of Vietnam lost 1,018 aircraft and helicopters from January 1964 to September 1973. Spooky came in after that and made a few passes. But, I knew the SA-2 was a powerful weapon; 400 lbs. Lt Cmdr Frederick P Crosby's plane crashed in a pond during the Vietnam War in 1965 (inset). After liftoff, caution must be exercised to avoid over-rotation. Was he making a record that his stupid wingman was messing up the mission? I believe I heard, or read, that the F-4 itself crashed in a small horse pasture. Crash Location: Into Sea off southwest coast of Vietnam near Rach Gia and Ca Mau. First loss: operational (non-combat), F-4C 64-0674 (45TH TFS, 15th TFW) which ran out of fuel after strike in SVN on 9 June 1965; first combat loss F-4C 64-0685 (45th TFS, 15th TFW) shot down Ta Chan, NW NVN on 20 June 1965. Scotty gave me the airplane and I climbed out at 350 knots until it came time to find the tanker on the radar. Some data to the soviets in Korea: The 324.IAD (Fighterdivision) 6738 missions. Joe many of the IPs in the 4435th remember you from your smooth ride getting back in the Phantom. Lonely feeling for a pilot over enemy territory. John Stuart Mill Phew! From the back seat, I accomplished the fuel on-load at an altitude of 25,000 ft. having to use minimum afterburner on the left engine to stay in position due to the heavy load. But I did not. Meadows For the briefest moment I contemplated that a right 60 degree turn would take me via the shortest route out of NVN. I am forever beholding to you on so many fronts. I saw an F-4 fly low into Firebase Bastogne in January 1969 and pickle a few rounds on the guys that were over-running our base. God Bless You for your service. And Ill always remember how you and Tom Nordberg stood up for me in Anchorage. Since we were shot down well before reaching our target and also because most of the strike flights had declined to enter the target area due to decidedly unfavorable weather, my story had to deny the Vietnamese any foreknowledge of the real target. They did not want to lose their Skin in this deadly game while other Americans bravely went to war. Permission was granted and I promptly made a big hit with the youngsters in attendance. I am unable to understand why I didnt feel dazed by all of the blows to the head Id received. Ritchie's #463 with drag chute open Phantom F-4Ds flying over Vietnam General Characteristics Crew: 2 Length: 63 ft 0 in (19.2 m) Wingspan: 38 ft 4.5 in (11.7 m) Height: 16 ft 6 in (5.0 m) Wing area: 530.0 ft (49.2 m) Airfoil: NACA 0006.4-64 root, NACA 0003-64 tip Empty weight: 30,328 lb (13,757 kg) Loaded weight: 41,500 lb (18,825 kg) Youre the best and always will be with me when I go flying. I am a UK resident but love all things aviation even the painful experiences suffered by many presented here by Joe also on behalf of Scotty. Joined up and reported a suspected Truck Park near Finger Lakes since we had avoided calling in to Ask Permission and wait the usual half hour to allow the Russian Radar trainers time to get out courtesy of our GD State Dept. Subconsciously I probably realized I was sitting alone in the back seat of a burning airplane. Im glad you made it home. And Mr. Crecca, again, I thank you. To you gentlemen; Brett, Tim, Wade, Gordon, Cliff, Neil, Andy and Jerry who responded to the reprint of my 2017 article, Shot Down Over North Vietnam, I thank you for your kind remarks and expressions of patriotism. I grew up with Thomas Guenther from Mass who also piloted an F-4 in RVN and NVN. Pair of scanning Navy A-6s. But for many years I wondered about what premonitions he also might have had that were similar to those Id had when I awakened. I yelled on the intercom, Deep six check! AIRCRAFT SHOT DOWN DURING THE VIETNAM WAR BY USN/USMC PILOTS. A minute or two after takeoff we had cold air blasting through the cockpits. For those interested in learning more about the F4 Phantom air war , I Remember VietNam by William L Barker , Major USAFR (Ret) is a great book.This first person account is full of operational data and pilot insights.All aviation enthusiasts will appreciate its nuances. He didnt. Do you know how good a F4 sounds from the darn dirt ?!? I have the greatest respect and admiration for you and other Vietnam POWs for your courage and what you had to endure. Energy Management Clich or Exactitude? Encountered SAMs Finger Lakes area. Number two is getting the shit shot out of him screaming on 272.7 and too late lead lights ABs as #2 blows up. At this moment the twin J-79 afterburners are briefly licking at the runway with two, huge, yellow-orange flames. The political strategy of Rolling Thunder was absurd from the git-go. When Maj. "Jump" Myers' plane crashed in flames, there was no chance of rescue - yet Bernie Fisher defied the odds and brought him out alive. We beneficiaries need to know the experiences, sufferings, challenges, life and death, victories and miraculous acts of God in the lives of our fellow countrymen in war, especially from their own voice and pen before the stories are gone. Asia [http://www.dpaa.mil/Resources/Fact-Sheets/Article-View/Article/569613/progress-in-vietnam/]. I could see small hooches (straw huts) on the ground. Joe, Every Friday Im privileged to have lunch with a WWII veteran who flew virtually every airplane in the arsenal of the time. Cant really say I enjoyed reading your piece, although I could not stop reading. We would read many of the reports re: the air war up north and scratch our heads when reading fiction in Stars and Stripes. So Scotty did the same check with a roll to the right with the same result. Even at max takeoff weight, Scotty had to be careful not to exceed the landing gear limit airspeed of 250 knots with both afterburners cooking. You softy, dont deserve the freedom which we veterans fought and died for! Thanks for the story, Joe. Further, the controller COULD have joined us up and vectored us back to the truck-convoy gaggle, but the controller had obviously lost confidence in a flight leader who didnt know where he was. I even remember glancing around the cockpit at the throttles and the control stick. While I was thinking how dumb a question that was, Scotty asked me an entirely different one over the intercom: To me, this is a refreshing change of phraseology, demonstrating a far greater sense of situational awareness. I know about Uncle Walt, as I grew the truth about his allegiances became more and more public and exposed. I would spend the next six years and three months in five different prison camps around the city and countryside in North Vietnam; the farthest very near to the Chinese border. Of those servicepeople, 2,382 were killed while serving aboard UH-1 Iroquois, better known as the ubiquitous "Huey." Contents [ hide] Its entirely, entirely because of you guys. This room was known, unaffectionately, by all who suffered there as the room with the green, bumpy walls. Seated on a small, wooden stool, the interrogation began in the usual way with, Name, rank, serial number and date of birth. When I refused to reply to any further questions except by repeating my name, rank, serial number and date of birth, my interrogating officer, in a most sinister way, and in a very convincing manner said, Crecca, you will die in Vietnam. In a matter of minutes I was bound with ropes. I looked for an escape route. bombs and eight Air-to-Air Missiles while I inspected the Phantom. Yep. Both Aircrew members ejected and were rescued; 155394 was shot down on 29 October 1971. Gary, this was like Vietnam all over again!. A-1E (S/N 52-132649) was flown by Maj. Bernard Fisher on March 10, 1966, when he rescued a fellow pilot shot down over South Vietnam. Well b fearn, you have a right to make your comment and your opinion, but I do not believe this is the time or place. J. W. Newhouse rescued, First loss: EF-105F 63-8286 (13th TFS, 388th TFW) shot down by AAA RP-6 July 1966, Maj. Roosevelt Hestle, Final loss: F-105G 63-8359 (Det.1 561st TFS, 388th TFW) shot down by SAM 16 November 1972, RP-3, crew rescued, First loss: mission-related TFR failure, 66-0022 (428th TFS 474th TFW, Project Combat Lancer), 28 March 1968, Maj. H.E. The bomb release button was now hot! We actually believed that the letters U.S. would frighten away any adversary who realized that we were in the confrontation. Scotty took one look at the patch which I admit looked a bit Sam Schwartz to me and replied, If we have to break for a SAM, well bring it back without the wingtip.. And I mourn their deaths. It was less than a minute before I would be on the ground. 1LT ALDRICH ROBERT HENRY BNR 12/27/1971154013 HMM-165 WO1 ALEXANDER BARRY KENNETH KIA 09/22/196968-513/68-23 71 AHC CPT ALEXANDER DAVID LEE KIA 02/06/197170-20 67-18493178 ASHC 1st Lieutenant Scotty Wilson, the best stick in [the squadron].. I think of Scotty Wilson and many others every, single day. We accomplished the weapons checklist just as we entered enemy territory: Centerline station, Bombs ripple, Intervalometer set, Master Arm. The villagers made short work of removing everything except my T-Shirt and skivvies. Public Servants who screw -up Big, Big time do not deserve such glorified recognition. Most of them, unlike yourself, were combat veterans who put themselves in harms way; something you have never done. Flight lead arrived and took his fuel after we were finished. [I was USAF SAC (enlisted) 62-66. Several of our birds went to Nam. He had the smoke trail spotted and wanted revenge. MiG-21 Units of the Vietnam War. Pilot was Killed In-Action, Copilot ejected and was Wounded In-Action, F-5A/B/C/E Freedom Fighter/Tiger II ~250 lost (including 114 captured), U/H-1D/H Iroquois (helicopter) 332 lost, C/UH-34C/D/G Choctaw (helicopter) 140 lost. Joe, you are one incredible patriot and hero. If you are wondering how this is possible, I will reveal at the outset that it is not possible. How do you look in the mirror? Since 366thTFW maintenance was overtaxed having to do all of its around-the-clock 24/7 functions, the flight leader had to turn down two airplanes before he found one that was combat ready and airworthy. However, when your country calls, you have two choices, in 1965 you went, in 1969 you didnt. The Air Force lost 1737, the Navy 530, the Marine Corps 463 and the Army lost 302 (fixed wing). At Tulsa TRACON, I would have lumped him in with any group you could think of that wouldnt give a damn about anyonehow wrong that lumping would have been. s F-4 Phantoms, paint it with the Squadron 21 and 161's colors and mark the splitter plate with the names of the eight pilots. November 22, 1966, was selected as the day a massive air strike would be launched against the first of two high-priority targets in North Vietnam (NVN). Graham MIA, Final loss: 670111 (474th TFW) mid-air collision over Cambodia, 16 June 1973, both crewmen rescued, First loss: 515287 to unknown cause 19 June 1965, 51-0071 (33d ARRS) shot down by AAA 14 March 1966, two crewmen killed, Only loss: KB-50J 48-0065 (421st Air Refueling Squadron Detachment) at, Two crashes in 1968, one 1969, all operational (non-combat), First loss: YQU-22A 68-10531 (554th RS, 553d RW) crashed due to engine failure on 11 June 1969, Final loss: QU-22B 70-1546 (554th RS) on 25 August 1972, pilot killed, First loss: 64-17969 (Det OL-8, 9th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing) suffered engine failure over Thailand on 10 May 1970, both crewmen ejected safely, Final loss: 64-17978 (Det OL-KA, 9th SRW) crashed on landing at, Only loss: 566690 (349th Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron 100th SRW) which crashed on 8 October 1966 near Bien Hoa, SVN, Maj. Leo J Stewart ejected and was rescued. Got this forwarded in late 2017. I was escorted a few hundred feet to one of the village hooches Id seen from above. Mccann and Capt. * These two pilots shared the credit for the shoot down of the MiG-17 and each were credited for . It was a moving story. Never flew with a pilot in the USAF that was not a top notch professional. The last known photo of F-4C 64-0755, the Phantom flown in this article. May God comfort those families who still wait and wonder.]. Without any electronic gear onboard to warn us of active SAM sites, there was no way for us to know that at that very moment a Soviet-built SA-2 missile was streaking its way towards our Phantom from directly behind us, Dead 6 oclock, in fighter pilot lingo. They were taken to a hospital to be evaluated, but they lived. I cried like a baby. I thought to myself, Im dead. I just didnt know what the moment of death would be like. I put off law school acceptance for a year to volunteer for the combat tour instead. It was noon. Not sure which squadron he started with but he ended up assigned to the 366-tfw. In 1980 and 81, the McDonnell Douglas Plant in Tulsa, Oklahoma was remanufacturing F-4 fighters for the Air Force. It is hard to imagine just surviving. Vietnam will eventually strive throughout S.E. I knew from some of the other Tigers that you had been a POW, but never heard the details of your harrowing tale. records. The prison at Hoa Lo was a miserable place. He is presently a retired airline pilot who originally flew for The Flying Tiger Line in DC-8s and 747s and then MD-11s for FedEx. Thank you for your service! The door gunner Bobby Harris was KIA during the shoot down. The soil was mercifully soft, loose and moist. Phew II! Top rudder pedal, however, broke us out at about 5 grand. But that's exactly what happened to Bill Arcuri when he was forced to bail out of his damaged plane over Vietnam. GBU my friend! Of course, things were beginning to wind down in Viet Nam by this time, but it was still mega impressive to see the F-4s light em up and blast off the runway like angry rocket-powered birds of prey searching for their next meal! Phew! The USAF sustained approximately 0.4 losses per 1,000 sorties during the conflict, which compared favorably with a 2.0 rate in Korea and a 9.7 figure during World War II. Thank you Sir. 3 Enclosures included: COMUSMACV MSG DTD 050023Z and Evaluations. What was the name of the plane that was shot down in Vietnam? There will always be those who dont get it. Maximum allowable gross takeoff weight in an F-4C was 58,000 lbs. Reeder is being held behind the middle window. I know exactly how you feel about combat decisions driven by hubris. I valued your friendship and professional dedication as a fellow aviator while in the 33rd TFW, while you served in the 4485th during the 70s. All this took no more than one second. 532 aircraft were lost in combat and 329 more to operational causes, resulting in the deaths of 401 naval aviators, with 64 airmen reported missing and 179 taken prisoner of war. I was falling towards the Earth and still attached to my Martin-Baker (made in England) ejection seat below a four-foot drogue chute to stabilize my rapid descent. Just to the right of Scottys lifeless figure was the light-brown and white cloud characteristic of an SA-2 detonation! And all of us should remember them every day because we are we enjoy the freedoms their sacrifice every, single day. But the effort proved futile. Rescued Misty Pilots . My father was at Danang in 67/68. In addition to all of your other talents, you write very well. One night I flew #2 to a newly crowned pentagon prince. Enroute, we learned USAF had discovered a major truck convoy up near the Plain of Jars, wanting help. At the 480th Tactical Fighter Squadron, Danang AB, RVN, four two-man crews were hand-picked to deliver the lethal ordnance onto both targets selected by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS). The Republic of Vietnam lost 1,018 aircraft and helicopters from January 1964 to September 1973. At least thats what I hoped. Glad to see you made it home, I remember that in 1972, 3, 4 & 5 most of America was oblivious to the fact that there was still a war going on & had moved on. Thanks for the details of this mission. It was -55F at 32,000 feet for over two hours and pressure breathing 100% Oxygen in a summer flight suit. The plane was unveiled . Glad to hear you are on frequency. Our brand-new LtCol had dreams of a DFC or Silver Star, so we drove 250 miles or so North, with marginal weather at Chu Lai, to volunteer our (his) effort. There were too many A-holes with rank putting the rest of us at risk up there especially RP VI. When all the politics are done when hostilities have ceased those who represented their country should be honoured. I was starting to get the idea. I am most grateful for the hero status conferred upon me by the predominance of commenters. I took one last look at the horizon. We held a mass intelligence briefing at wing HQ. Thank you for your sentiment. I knew none of this before he died. I remember the day we lost a crew in Cambodia. All my attention had been focused on escape and I had inadvertently bypassed the opportunity to use my emergency radio to make a distress, Mayday call. Thanks for your story, Joe. If none of the strike flights entered the target area, the MiGs wouldnt come up. An Air Force pilot and air commando who was shot down in 1970 during the Vietnam War will be buried at the Air Force Academy. Our detachment was working on WWll vintage C-47s, but we got to observe AC-130 gunships and the F-4 unit known as Wolf-Pack in action. via Vietnamese News Agency Photo via Bert Hester, www.preservingourhistory.com By Rebecca Grant AIR FORCE Magazine / February 2013 75 Fogleman became the only Super Sabre pilot ever rescued by riding out on a Cobra helicopter. Every year on the 18th of December I start an eleven day ritual of emails to the Vietnam air warriors on the anniversary of the first night of Operation Linebacker II lest we forget the courage and sacrifices of all those who risked all from that first night until the 29th both tactical air and especially the B-52 crews. Among fixed-wing aircraft, more F-4 Phantoms were lost than any other type in service with any nation. The Communistss claimed 19 B-52s shot down to date. (Shaking head sadly) It seems theres always someone willing to take a conversation on an inappropriate tangent. To increase air support for the SEALORDS Operation in South Vietnam's Mekong Delta, the Navy "borrowed" twenty North American Aviation OV-10A Broncos from the United States Marine Corps. I taught math, physics, automotive theory and practice, and classical music in the Hanoi Hilton. This is known as temporal distortion. I was an aircraft mechanic serving at Clark Air Base in 1969-70 and then later at NKP in Thailand in 1973-74. AddThis Utility Frame. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling that thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. Some were grabbing and pulling at my anti-g suit, flight suit and boots. Galand himself would be shot down two months later. My head, no longer protected by my helmet, was now receiving direct hits from clubs, rocks, rifle butts and God-knows-what. 71-0316 (355th TFS) operational loss (non-combat) crash in Thailand on 11 January 1973 (pilot rescued) 70-0949 (354th TFW) shot down Laos on 17 February 1973 (Maj J.J. 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