Perhaps the locale of a funeral was intendedor, as some suggest, the holy city of Jerusalem. Verse 14 repeats the dilemma of Ecclesiastes 7:15 Ecclesiastes 7:15All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongs his life in his wickedness.American King James Versionthe righteous suffering what wickedness is supposed to result in and the wicked receiving what righteousness is supposed to result in. Verse 11 explains why evil grows worse and worsebecause justice is not swift. Yet that is only for now. Who knows anything? 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. The alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days 3. As has been pointed out before, some take a low view of the refrain. That shall abide with him during the days of his life which God gives him under the sun. [26] And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoever pleases God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her. And thus, they give their hearts over to evil because they think that God is too remote to care. It is Here he shows, 1. The problem with this view is that it does not do full justice to what the Preacher says. The Preacher is growing more and more confident about this joy. American King James Versiona). Neither hath he power in the day of death Or, against the day, that is, to avoid, or delay that day; and there is no discharge As there is in other wars . Paul said, "Who are you to say unto Him that has created you, 'Why hast Thou made me thus?'" He doesn't strike immediately, but oftentimes forestalls judgment for months, for years. "It doesn't really matter to God how I live. God will judge. The point seems to be that if the king puts you to death for rebellion or crime, life is over. We'll send you an email with steps on how to reset your password. "I'm a prosperous cheat, so God is condoning my cheating. Furthermore, the verses in chapter 8 do not seem to speak of human government rectifying problems so much as of us taking care to not run afoul of government (we will see similar verses in this regard in chapter 10). Recall that this comes on the heels of Solomon presenting humanity as corrupt in chapter 7. _ 1. Benson Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:14-15. When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labor to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea farther; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it ( Ecclesiastes 8:16-17 ). Commentary, explanation and study verse by verse. CONCLUSION: Heavenly wisdom makes a man a good man, Ecclesiastes 8:1. Fear God. The wicked will not ultimately be prolonged, yet the righteous will. What else had he seen? John Gill's Exposition of the Bible. dispensations of Providence_._ _Howeve Who is as the wise man? of it; this the wise man praised and recommended to good men, as Dr. Walter Kaiser, whose overall outline weve been following, describes the chapter 8 subsection as follows: The removal of a large proportion of the apparent inequalities in divine providence comes from righteous government. This summary, however, does not appear to be quite accurate. But it shall not be well with the wicked ( Ecclesiastes 8:13 ), In the end God's judgment will come. ( Ecclesiastes 8:1-4 ). Commentary on Ecclesiastes 8:14-17 (Read Ecclesiastes 8:14-17) Ecclesiastes 8:1. The Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the God's not willing that any should perish but that all should come into repentance. And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity. [11] Now no chastening for the present seems to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to them which are exercised thereby. [27] Behold, this have I found, said the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account: Ecclesiastes 8:13. wicked men sometimes do not live out half their days, which, according to the course of nature, and common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, ( Ecclesiastes 7:15 ) ; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is quickly gone; or . Now because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil ( Ecclesiastes 8:11 ). Life is empty. [22] For oftentimes also your own heart knows that you yourself likewise have cursed others. the righteous often suffer, and the wicked prosper. As the same commentary notes: Somesay that the Preacher is simply making the best of a bad situation, that Solomon is a cynic. Product Identifiers sun, than (n) to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall His reply is not an observation, but the answer of faith. He believes what he cannot seethat one day all will be well for everyone who lives in the fear of God (Ryken, p. 196). ECCLESIASTES 8:14. In the midst of a miscarriage, a failed friendship, or job loss, the preacher would remind us that 'there is a time for. The mention of an oath to God may bring to mind the need to follow through on vows to God in Ecclesiastes 5. Ecclesiastes/Song of Solomon - Leaders Guide. Love the brotherhood. Hey, it's great to be merry because a man has no better thing under the sun. Read the Scripture: Ecclesiastes 7:15-8:1 The book of Ecclesiastes is the most exhaustive investigation ever made as to the value and profit of various lifestyles. There is a vanity which is done upon the earth Either by wicked potentates, who do commonly advance unworthy men, and oppress persons of the greatest virtue and merit: or, by God's providence, who sees it fit for many weighty reasons so to manage the affairs of the present world. Mirth therefore, and a contented enjoyment of God's gifts, preferable to immoderate care and search, Ecclesiastes 8:15. Ecclesiastes 8:8. But this is not where things end. Others see ruach here as meaning wind, and take the statement to mean that just as the wind is beyond our control, so is death. But if they find the kings command unreasonable, wisdom will show them a way out. 1. Wise and good men have, of old, been perplexed with this difficulty, how the prosperity of the wicked and the troubles of the righteous can be reconciled with the holiness and goodness of the God that governs the world. To go from someones presence elsewhere signifies disaffection or disloyalty . serving the king, followed by a number Ecclesiastes 7:19-8 ". A man's wisdom maketh his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed. They know they have no control over life or death. Some put Ecclesiastes 8:1 Ecclesiastes 8:1Who is as the wise man? As mentioned previously, the seer and psalmist Asaph, a contemporary of Solomon, wrestled with how the righteoussuffered while the wicked prospered, then stating, When I thought how to understand this, it was too painful for meuntil I went into the sanctuary of God; then I understood their end (Psalms 73:16-17 Psalms 73:16-17 [16] When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me; In fact, Solomon himself wrote elsewhere, The fear of the LORD prolongs days, but the years of the wicked will be shortened (Proverbs 10:27 Proverbs 10:27The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.American King James Version). Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Sutcliffe's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments Ecclesiastes 8:1. In Solomon's reign the people were very rich, and lived in prosperity, which perhaps made them proud and petulant, and when the taxes were high, though they had enough to pay them with, it is probable that many conducted themselves . common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, Ecclesiastes 7:15; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is . Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than, For that shall abide with him of his labor, and that this should accompany him in his labor, Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers, Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament. His survey now digresses to consider a wise man's responsibility when Add To Cart. is simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what they'd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in God's temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. Placing them at t _Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the That is a tragic, fatal mistake of misinterpreting God's grace and God's goodness to you. No man has any power over the spirit. No power in death. Moreover, rarely has human government been righteous. This is added as another evidence of man's misery. His estimate of the pleasures of the senses is recorded in Ecclesiastes 7:2-6. Who is as the wise man? The writer returns to the sentiment expressed already (Ecclesiastes Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). Hebrew word is applied not only to the pleasures arising from the Verses 12-13 show that beyond the prolonged days of the wicked today, it will be well with those who fear God but not for the wicked who do not. When we look upon all the works of God and his providence, and compare one part with another, we cannot find that there is any such certain method by which the work that is done under the sun is directed; we cannot discover any key by which to decipher the character, nor by consulting precedents can we know the practice of this court, nor what the judgment will be. A good man's days have some substance; he lives to a good purpose: a wicked man's days are all as a shadow, empty and worthless. Death is ultimately in the power of God but is also in the kings hands (NAC, note on verses 7-8). [5] But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him. And people begin to misinterpret the long-suffering of God. This is not speaking of understanding that there will be a future judgment from God, though that is mentioned later in chapter 8. Thinks that he has been clever and has hid his sin from God, or worse yet, thinks that God is condoning what he has done. We must arm ourselves against the temptation of an oppressive government and not think it strange ( v. 9, 10 ). condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of mind, 1. these men against divine Providence, and the inferences they dra Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, When on the cross, it said, "He bowed his head and dismissed His Spirit" ( John 19:30 ). evil. The conclusion (Ecclesiastes 8:14) And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. pleasant, and not distress themselves about things they cannot element of thought mingles with the higher fear of God, to which th FOR THAT SHALL ABIDE WITH HIM OF HIS LABOUR _And this shall borrow [12] For wisdom is a defense, and money is a defense: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom gives life to them that have it. Of that Solomon is certain. which God giveth him under the sun; in actual life. Thus the Preacher warns against a capricious desertion of ones post (cf. Here are given the four uncertainties mentioned above, the verse means that, "Not even great wealth will enable the wealthy to defy these limitations." [15] No discharge in war regards the uncertainty that threatens one who may be drafted into a war by some absolute monarch. Do not be hasty to go from his presence. Then I commended mirth,. Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit in whatsoever state condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortable use of it; this the wise man praised and recommended to good men, as being much better than to fret at the prosperity of the wicked, and the seemingly unequal distribution of things in this world, and because they had not so much of them: as others; who yet had reason to be thankful for what they had, and to lift up their heads and be cheerful, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God in another world. He said, "Okay, you can go now." Most people, including many Christians, go through life hardly realizing that they are constantly in the presence of God. The sentiment of this verse is a frequent conclusion of the writers personal experience (compare marginal references), and is unfairly charged with Epicureanism. People should not despair over these problems, but rather enjoy whatever God has given them in life (15). Yet this is with the realization that God loves us and wants the best for us. We_ have here an image which will not disgrace THERE IS A VANITY WHICH IS DONE UPON THE EARTH.] (Note: Vid., Baer in Abodath Jisrael, p. For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be? We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. This is the perspective that must be maintainedalong with understanding what the future will bring. American King James Version). God's purpose must be American King James Version). It's because they are misinterpreting the patience of God waiting for men to be saved, because God is not willing that any should perish. mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortab Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the Salem Media Group. Ecclesiastes 8:10 i _Then I commended mirth_ As before in chs. DEATH OF THE WICKED. So I know that in the long run that life is the best. Thus wisdom here leads to proper caution and can sometimes result in influencing rulers toward positive change. Keeping this in mind results in a deep and abiding reverence for Godloving and trusting Him while recognizing His supreme power and holiness (see Hebrews 12:28-29 Hebrews 12:28-29 [28] Why we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: i. Blue Letter Bible study tools make reading, searching and studying the Bible easy and rewarding. The New American Commentary quotes an alternate translation of the verse: All this I have seen and have given attention to every deed done under the sun while man rules men to their hurt. This is the terrible human condition of today. So, because God has waited so long, because God hasn't speedily executed His sentence against the evil, people begin to assume that God has just withdrawn Himself. It is good that you should take hold of this; yes, also from this withdraw not your hand: for he that fears God shall come forth of them all. yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ): Now, in the end the best life is the life of fearing God, walking with God. ECCLESIASTES 8:14, it is best to give a man's self up to eating and Eat, and to drink, and to be merry.The three words occur together 1Kings 4:20. abideHebrew, "adhere"; not for ever, but it is the only sure good to be enjoyed from earthly labors (equivalent to "of his labor the days of his life"). God does know. California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. The Tyndale commentary notes: To his hurt (Heb[rew]) is not to his own hurt (AV [Authorized or KJV]) but to the hurt of the one under the abuser of power (note on verse 9). Where the verse says they were forgotten, many others render this they were praised, reasoning that the positive eulogizing of the wicked after all their evil must be the vanity or frustration mentioned. Honor the king.American King James Version). neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he fears not before God. of his life, eat, and to Yet these words of the Preacher show us the futility and foolishness of a life lived without an eternal perspective. Under the sun, man, life is just very shallow and you live life in a very shallow level, and. equally puzzling that the RIGHTEOUS sometimes receive the treatmen CRITICAL NOTES. The place of holiness to which they had come and gone is not clear. life was a low one. The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to (see NOTE TO PROVERBS below) It is the There is no specific reference to the government being righteous here, and the verses appear to end with the problem of human rule doing harm (verse 9), which we will return to. Its just a matter of timeand probably much less time than most imagine. Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Summarized Bible Commentary CONTENTS: Wisdom recommended as an antidote against the temptations and vexations arising from the vanity of the world. lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. No! Fear of the Lord is to depart from evil. He's very patient. his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and [23] All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me. with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth _There is a vanity which is done upon the earth_ Either by wicked Thinks he has put one over on God. God puts up with so much. H8055 (H8800) remain H3867 (H8799) labor H5999 days H3117 life H241 CHAPTER 8 ADVICE WITH REGARD TO SERVING THE KING. Though he be ever so ingenious, though he be a wise man in other things, and can fathom the counsels of kings themselves and trace them by their footsteps. If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses. 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