Why are we waving them away with meaningless platitudes: We have heard you, and we are changing? Also, it seems that all of the so-called ABA therapists who write for Neuroclastic have a bizarre obsession with Jason Travers. Press J to jump to the feed. Are their needs being met? This is just my two cents, not worth much in many circles. Kid kicks off shoes and is freaking out, screaming, flailing, now on the floor. 1960s . our clients, especially our disabled clients. Internal states are integral to how stimuli in the environment change for the individual. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. As in, false names people write under so that, for instance, their jobs arent at stake? While many beautiful women boast about the free drinks and rapid promotions which good looks have brought their way, Shye Lee says being hot has . Has anyone careers changed? There is abundant research on trauma and the effects of chronic stress on a childs threat system. The good news is you have some freedom to major in whatever subject interests you the most. the authors take on ACT is mistaken. Are we as a field even aware of A$s many controversies or of the profound dislike the vast majority of the autistic community has towards AS? Many of the people who support aversive interventions or who write the literature are doing so from a research standpoint, not an applied one. ABA seems so afraid of collaboration, many in ABA discourage dilution of ABA services to make sure no other therapies are involved. They are not in any way intended to be against the. They strategised better, harder, and longer, for the door, and it might sound terrible, but a retractable harness, where he felt he was exploring on his own terms, but my parents had sight and control was the way they got that energy out. Any criticisms of ABA are based in emotion, not facts. ABA Therapy is most often used on children who have Autism, but it's also with children who are neurotypical. Throughout history, a close-minded approach has shown to be very dangerous-especially so when we are working with ANY vulnerable population. These kids with autism are becoming adults with autism, and the services cliff is steep. Being a Behavior Therapist Sucks : r/ABA I quit for this new dynamic company. While there are BACB certificants living in 94 countries besides . It influences them to be cheap and shady so that they can keep sending off bigger and bigger claims to the payors. It does suggest, however, that while it isnt correct to claim that all verbal disabilities are due to a motor condition (an overly sweeping claim, and one that people in the FC field probably made because their careers were born in a climate in which claiming nonverbal people had much of a mind at all was deemed unscientific) it is also incorrect to say its always a language or cognitive disability, especially when we know people exist even at the genius level who cannot move their bodies and thats the thing, if geniuses can exist who are unable to move their bodies, it stands to reason there are many more people who cannot move their bodies or cant reliably control body movement who are of average intelligence or otherwise not severely intellectually disabled. I hate being a BCBA. Only 1.9% live in Canada and 3.7% in all other countries. I looked up her name on the BCBA registry and there is no BCBA with the surname Ram in the United States. I could not believe that this wasnt an emphasis or requirement for our education, especially with how much personal physical space we occupy with our clients. Just listen to any ABA podcasts on these topics. I think ABA cannot be salvaged, only destroyed, because even if ABA has some redemable parts, its history of being an overwhelmingly manipulative abusive practice attracts manipulative abusive people, and those people cannot be changed. Quitting my RBT job but encourage others to stay. Reach out to other autistic people in pro-ABA circles. As an Autistic advocate, this whole subject intrigued me enough to study ABA academically to learn what it is truly about and how it actually works. As others have stated, youre definitely not alone in how youre feeling. No, I am not a BCBA. But everyone is just doing what they have to do in order to survive our twisted sociecononic structure. 10:30 - Supervision of Client #2. Let our BCBAs guide give you the support you need! Go find a company culture that fits what you want. ABA professionals are given a framework of deification with our ABA gods (some are calling out the problem with this, but not loudly enough) and admonished if we question it. I pushed our company to do this and am helping with development of marketing, etc. In fact, it means you learn even more! Or, we choose to not believe clients and parents when they give us information. We should be saying: we havent developed consistently good ways to measure internal states, but we are constantly working on improving by consulting autistic people (note: throwing have you looked at ACT/RFT/DNA-V/etc. at this problem doesnt change that). The autistic community has a term for this a common critique of ABA Autistic Conversion Therapy.. And its quite funny you mention ABA therapists holding autistic childrens hands and forcing them to type, because thats exactly what FC entails. that tells us emotions, emotional regulation, sensory processing, self calming, etc. We wont notice they are pretending that they are not stressed and anxious, from all the effort they are using in suppressing their natural selves. Please check out In Tune Pathways for resources other than ABA for your child. Along with the coursework, we are required to obtain 1500 hours of supervised . It seems to line up more with methods that are linked to poor long term mental health outcomes. I was trained at a great ABA (Applied Behavior Analysis) program, and I believed in ABA, just how I was, My words here are a plea to ask that ABA practitioners consider the impact of how they practice therapy. Have you had luck finding a job in that area? Are we just lucky to have a modern day version of ABA or are all the others still living in the past. I have made my mistakes along the way, I will admit and I have done things I was trained to do (not just looking at you planned ignoring and escape extinction) that I am deeply saddened by and regret. That said, it would be hard to change the status quo. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The biggest problem is business acumen. When all we care about is what we can see, we miss a lot, including masking (see below). They are not in any way intended to be against the code of the BACB (specifically sections 6 and 8, since the code engenders fear about speaking out against ABA). Do you know what the names of some of the job titles may be? We cant do better by our clients without listening to our clients. , etc.) If they are communicating with proven methods, first of all, that calls the degree of debunking into question if the proven methods agree with what is said by the same person in FC, and second, even if it didnt, their voice should not be discredited wholesale, but rather the words they say with the proven methods should be taken as theirs. I am left to wonder if you arent referring to the ABA of years ago, or pandering to people who are on the so called higher end of the (spectrum) I wonder this because our family has been either blessed to have an absolutely awesome ABA in home staff for the past 5 years. Its so frustrating to know our skills can be applied in other positions but companies dont realize that. on. The main autism treatment model is set up for a BCBA to oversee a behavior tech (a person trained usually with just a crash course in basic ABA and often in problematic and rigid teaching techniques (e.g. Cancelations. The biggest problem is business acumen. My rapid prompting method bashing escalated What are the best/most interesting ABA articles you've has anyone worked or is working for hopebridge? And I agree that the writer of this article does not sound like someone who has actually been a BCBA. To become a BCBA, a Masters level of education is required, either in ABA or in a related field. We need to incorporate. And besides, even if FC were as debunked as it is said to be, even if autistic commonalities werent considered (the least of which is that if FC were totally fake, youd see an increase in meltdowns in the users due to the facilitator being in their face all the time followed by learned helplessness much as you see in ABA programs, rather than what caretakers actually see, the person becoming more settled in general over time without a meltdown extinction burst like you would expect both from ABA and fraudulent hand-over-hand prompting like FC is believed to be) there is a false dichotomy here. Yes some autistics might have had no problem with it but the exception doesnt represent the example here. 1. They aren't compensated for cancelled sessions, get little to no benefits, and often work super late at night or on weekends doing treatment plans and creating session materials. You start to notice that they take data on a daily basis, work on targeting specific behaviors in an objective way through using various techniques and strategies. Instead of using it appropriately, BCBAs weild ACT to claim they are working with covert (feelings and thoughts) behaviors without actually acknowledging how important a complete picture of a persons mental health is to changing difficult internal feelings and thoughts long term. As for diapers (another common whataboutism), adults have incontinence too and sometimes need to wear diapers even if they are working a 9 to 5 every day and if the person cant use the toilet, they could possibly, if they have the motor skills for it, learn to change their own diapers and flush the solid contents down the toilet. The fact that this person, Deej, uses methods that are generally considered more reliable than FC is, methods that have not been debunked by science, and yet all of his voice is debunked by these people, is why it seems as if there might be issues with the debunking, too. Joined Dec 15, 2016 Messages 53 . And if it turns out that you do this in pro-ABA circles and your autistic-people-only polls still get the results you see in the neurodiversity circles then accept the conclusion that no, autistic people do not support ABA. Why are we encouraging autistic people to present based on our version of normal instead of as unapologetically themselves with the skills to advocate for their needs as themselves rather than some theoretical fixed version of themselves? Im sorry to hear this. That is completely ridiculous. Shocking teaches nothing but learned helplessness and leaves no room for healing. ABA therapy has also just coerced them into silencing their internal and external no.. So I am asking why is it so wrong for a parent to reach out for help. When a field resists change, growth, and evolution, it becomes a dogmatic echo chamber and encourages tacit complacency from those who dont see themselves as part of the problem. We havent used any restrictive SCIP interventions agency-wide in over 5 years due to our commitment to ABA principles. Considering that a double-blinded study has debunked FC, there is no reason to support it. He was scooped up by kind neighbours 5 times before my parents realised what he was doing he was extremely sneaky with it! Actual lessons which could lead to new behavioral issues down the road. ACT is PART of a theraputic approach for helping clients. This sounds very interesting. While I have only been a full time BCBA for a few months, I can't imagine a career doing anything else, and I can't picture a more perfect setting in which to practice than BCOTB. In the same way you wouldnt misgender somebody by ignoring their preferred pronouns, stop misidentifying autistic people who have clearly and repeatedly made their language preferences known and hold those preferences by a strong majority. I remember doing the first point you had at two different companies. We have the research. So do you, Terra. Their model is amazing. Very successful, and was encouraged to embrace her truest self regardless of other peoples perceptions. Until theres evidence she is an actual BCBA, I have no reason to believe her. Why is it, when we have autistic voices willing to tell us what they think, we choose to deride them, instead of including them? All the anti-ABA rhetoric may have had some validity 20 years ago, but not so much anymore. It doesn't say anything about whether ABA is ethical. I am asking why is it so wrong for a parent to reach out to other autistic in. In whatever subject interests you the most for your child so frustrating to know skills... 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